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Let me close this properly.
- TheBadGuy
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- Mazfer
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“Just because you aren't paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”
- web techy on DN / www.rsgraphics.fi
I took the time to read through the topic and then close it, because I did not see the discussion going any further other than bashing and accusing each other of what we are not. Clearly my assumptions were right based on this topic??
I will leave this one open so you have a chance to reply. I know some wouldn't even give you that chance.
- JonnyUK
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Your chatlog is discusting.
The way you speak to my admins is discusting.
You play in our servers for free which means you play by our rules or leave, simple as that, if we want to mute you "just because" then we have EVERY right to do so (not that we do this as we are fair people).
You have 42 warnings on our servers, the limit before we PB someone is 30, if I see your name again you will be getting permbanned from our servers, no discussions.
Regards,
JonnyUK
- TheBadGuy
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I am sorry if you guys feel bad about the way I get mad in the game, I can admit I have a bad temper for this kinda games, it seems I get angry easily and I am a very bad loser, I hate to lose and It seems to me I have many 'unhits' which pushes me to express it. But even with all my mistakes I am a human, a person and you can't just solve a thing by appealing to a violent solution and then create a prejudice to apply the same rule again and again even when I have not even typed a damned thing and I press F10 or F5 just to realize I've been muted since I came in-game. That seems pretty nasty to me, which seems to be the way to solve things for some of your admins. As I said, you should not be so prepotent.
- Mazfer
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“Just because you aren't paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”
- web techy on DN / www.rsgraphics.fi
As long as you play on our servers and use our forum you agree to the rules we have set. We have the rules so everyone can enjoy the gameplay on the server and the usage of our forums in peace, not so the rules can be broken and have everyone go rampart and do whatever they like.
The Data Protection law does not include in-game chat logs, so you have gotten that part wrong, but we do have that covered in our terms and conditions as well. The GDPR law only refers to how companies handle personal data, be that names, street address etc.. basically any information to identify a person falls under this rule.
This is where things get interesting, as we have this written under the GDPR page on our website:
"AGREEMENT
By creating an account on our website and playing on our game servers, you agree to have your data collected and stored.
Drunknoobs also reserves the right to blacklist ip addresses, and keep them blacklisted, as well as have demos of potential cheaters, cheaters as well as clean players uploaded on our forums and keep them there for reference."
This means you have no option to not agree to the things mentioned above, unless you stop playing on the server and using our forums/website altogether.
- An2pl
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... If you offer this server for free then don't throw it back to the face of the people that comes to play in it.
This what's wrote JonnyUK was straight: You are on OUR property...
... Yes, my chatlog may be ugly, especially to sensitive people, which seems a norm nowadays, but you should read more carefully because your admins have had very special words towards me as well.
That's mean you are good know what cause all action what we take on you. Connecting on free to play server MUST EXPECT there are will be more sensitive players including preventive admins. Actual is the same amount of sensitive player... just few years ago you would have been quickly kicked, perbaned and forgotten, now we try to talk with you...
Our holy patience has its limits.
...Adults arguing in a game is... well child's game in comparison to how violating is what you do with your logs. ...
You are the one off this adults persons who arguing and whining about this childish game. Logs or demos i this game are double-edged sword... you can make yourself demo or chatlog and proof to us the right is on your site. Many players using it to get rid cheaters or others thing...
...I am sorry if you guys feel bad about the way I get mad in the game, I can admit I have a bad temper for this kinda games, it seems I get angry easily and I am a very bad loser, I hate to lose and It seems to me I have many 'unhits' which pushes me to express it. ...
This mean our mute action on You was correct, to stop escalating bad thing what may happens when someone loses patience. Try to express your bad feelings and frustration in other way, than writing that stuff on keyboard.
...But even with all my mistakes I am a human, a person and you can't just solve a thing by appealing to a violent solution and then create a prejudice to apply the same rule again and again even when I have not even typed a damned thing and I press F10 or F5 just to realize I've been muted since I came in-game. That seems pretty nasty to me, which seems to be the way to solve things for some of your admins. As I said, you should not be so prepotent.
Humans usually do learn and and adapt their behavior to the place where they are currently if they see that it is not well received. We don't have access to talk face to face so if our words don't reaching you i have no idea what i should do... tell it .
- TheBadGuy
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Your server is perfectly accessible to play directly from the game built-in GUI, I never knew of the existence of your website after probably months of playing at your server. I never saw once a message warning me that the server will keep chat logs and that I accept this and entering means I agree, nor did I was offered to opt-out of the chat log. Another funny detail is that even when people are muted if they write something in the chat whatever they write will be seen by the admin and stored in chat logs, even when you can read what you yourself have just typed. Man! I could just be typing shit to release some tension out and suddently one day I realize that it is being read by the admin, sounds familiar? yeah, because it is a real story in this server.
This is the kinda case that you may think you have more or less rounded up, but it is greatly arguable that people just come into your server having no idea of the chat logs nor even thinking this is a possibility. About the grown-up or child's game discussions, maybe it is my poor English, it must be, but I think it is obvious a linguistic resource, a tool to express an idea of how somethings are huge for some people but other people find the big deal in other stuff. For me, it is obvious now that you guys are never gonna see this from a different angle, not you and not any of the toady people around here. Go ahead and close this topic, you can reply whatever you want. And about being moral, even if you are really totally legally not forced to explain people coming in that your server keeps logs of their chats, that doesn't mean it is morally right to keep them stored for too long and being able to visit them back after a couple of days to decide whether or not a user is a "good" or a "bad" one or if his/her conversations are "disgusting". As I said if you think my words are disgusting, well those are just words, think about your acts. Luckily we still live in a society that doesn't judge people for "thought crime", unless we are talking about your server, a place in which you can be muted before you even opened your mouth.